Promise VTrak J300s
by Jason Clark & Dave Muysson on February 2, 2007 8:00 AM EST- Posted in
- IT Computing
Closing Thoughts
We've run quite a few tests, and encountered some surprising results. What exactly does all this tell us? We've only truly tested four different drives, each representing one of the current interface standards. Ideally, we would have tested nearly identical drives on each interface, but sometimes that's just not possible. Even with differences in basic features, however, we can draw some meaningful conclusions.
SAS
SAS clearly dominates when it comes to pure I/O throughput with the exception of 5%-20% random writes. With the introduction of a Point-to-Point topology, the performance floodgates have been opened and I/O reads of up to 540MB/sec with just 12 drives are now achievable. Even writes have jumped from 95MB/sec on SCSI to over 330MB/sec with SAS. It's also amazing to see that with just 12 drives in a RAID 10 you can almost guarantee a minimum of 100MB/sec sustained for both reads and writes in any combination.
SATA I/II
It's hard to find a good place for SATA I and II when it comes to performance. Reads for both types can hold their own against SCSI when the access type is between 0 and 20% random, but after that they are slower. SATA II performs extremely well with writes from 0 to 100% random, but SATA I drops below SCSI as soon as you reach 5% random. So why would you want SATA I or II? Put simply, the cost per GB of SATA cannot be touched by SAS or SCSI, which makes SATA the perfect choice for high capacity, albeit slower storage. If you are considering this type of configuration, we would strongly recommend buying drives with a large disk cache, as it appears they can improve your writes significantly.
The Raptor line is also unique at present, as it is the only 10K RPM SATA solution and it also comes with a 16MB cache. It is "only" an SATA I interface, but without further testing it's difficult to say for certain how much of the SATA II performance advantage is due to the interface and how much simply comes from having newer hard drive models with more cache. We're inclined to think the cache and platter density is playing a significant role, along with NCQ support, as each individual drive shouldn't be able to come anywhere near saturating SATA's 150MB/s bandwidth limit per connection.
The simple fact of the matter, however, is that no businesses looking at something like the VTrak J300s (or any other SAS enclosure) are going to really be interested in the Raptor line. Most will want a high performance, low capacity SAS drive array, perhaps complemented by a few high capacity SATA drives. The Raptor is either not fast enough or not large enough; the lower price of the Raptors vs. 15K SAS models doesn't normally enter the picture.
SCSI
SCSI still has its place in the server market when you compare it against SATA I/II, but it simply cannot touch SAS. SCSI has been around for a long time now, and SAS is clearly the next logical step. When you work on a drive by drive basis we're sure the gap between SAS and SCSI will be very small, but as you add more drives to the array the point-to-point architecture clearly wins. As time has progressed, SCSI drives have become faster and faster, but the shared bus architecture is definitely holding them back. This is very apparent when you consider how little SCSI drops from 0% random to 100% random in both reads and writes. Higher RPM drives would drop even less, but they still won't be able to improve on the bandwidth limits we encountered. The only way to improve overall bandwidth is to move to multiple SCSI connections, which can improve performance but comes with increased costs and more cable clutter.
Performance Conclusion
Both SAS and SATA I/II have their place in the Direct Attached Storage market. If your application needs high I/O throughput and can reside on low to medium capacities, then SAS is definitely the way to go. If you need high capacity more than you need high I/O then SATA I/II is the best choice. Of course with 300GB SAS drives (soon to be 600GB) you can still reach very high capacities, but at a cost that is significantly higher than with SATA. In the end you have to balance performance vs. cost and determine which is best for you.
Conclusion
Through our testing the Promise VTrak J300s has proven itself to be a reliable solution with good performance that is well suited for the SMB world. The ability to use high capacity SATA or high performance SAS in the same chassis gives users a new level of flexibility that wasn't an option before. Add to that the new performance levels that SAS can obtain vs. SCSI and DAS becomes a feasible solution again before moving to a full Fiber/SAN infrastructure. Of course when that time comes, it can be filled with high capacity SATA disks and still be useful for hosting a Virtual Tape Library, NAS backend, or long term data storage.
At the time of writing Shopping.com reported a price of $2,100 to $2,500 USD for the VTrak J300s, which is a decent price for an external SAS/SATA chassis. We had a hard time coming up with things to say about our experience with the Promise VTrak because it simply just worked, and in the end, isn't that what we're all looking for?
We've run quite a few tests, and encountered some surprising results. What exactly does all this tell us? We've only truly tested four different drives, each representing one of the current interface standards. Ideally, we would have tested nearly identical drives on each interface, but sometimes that's just not possible. Even with differences in basic features, however, we can draw some meaningful conclusions.
SAS
SAS clearly dominates when it comes to pure I/O throughput with the exception of 5%-20% random writes. With the introduction of a Point-to-Point topology, the performance floodgates have been opened and I/O reads of up to 540MB/sec with just 12 drives are now achievable. Even writes have jumped from 95MB/sec on SCSI to over 330MB/sec with SAS. It's also amazing to see that with just 12 drives in a RAID 10 you can almost guarantee a minimum of 100MB/sec sustained for both reads and writes in any combination.
SATA I/II
It's hard to find a good place for SATA I and II when it comes to performance. Reads for both types can hold their own against SCSI when the access type is between 0 and 20% random, but after that they are slower. SATA II performs extremely well with writes from 0 to 100% random, but SATA I drops below SCSI as soon as you reach 5% random. So why would you want SATA I or II? Put simply, the cost per GB of SATA cannot be touched by SAS or SCSI, which makes SATA the perfect choice for high capacity, albeit slower storage. If you are considering this type of configuration, we would strongly recommend buying drives with a large disk cache, as it appears they can improve your writes significantly.
The Raptor line is also unique at present, as it is the only 10K RPM SATA solution and it also comes with a 16MB cache. It is "only" an SATA I interface, but without further testing it's difficult to say for certain how much of the SATA II performance advantage is due to the interface and how much simply comes from having newer hard drive models with more cache. We're inclined to think the cache and platter density is playing a significant role, along with NCQ support, as each individual drive shouldn't be able to come anywhere near saturating SATA's 150MB/s bandwidth limit per connection.
The simple fact of the matter, however, is that no businesses looking at something like the VTrak J300s (or any other SAS enclosure) are going to really be interested in the Raptor line. Most will want a high performance, low capacity SAS drive array, perhaps complemented by a few high capacity SATA drives. The Raptor is either not fast enough or not large enough; the lower price of the Raptors vs. 15K SAS models doesn't normally enter the picture.
SCSI
SCSI still has its place in the server market when you compare it against SATA I/II, but it simply cannot touch SAS. SCSI has been around for a long time now, and SAS is clearly the next logical step. When you work on a drive by drive basis we're sure the gap between SAS and SCSI will be very small, but as you add more drives to the array the point-to-point architecture clearly wins. As time has progressed, SCSI drives have become faster and faster, but the shared bus architecture is definitely holding them back. This is very apparent when you consider how little SCSI drops from 0% random to 100% random in both reads and writes. Higher RPM drives would drop even less, but they still won't be able to improve on the bandwidth limits we encountered. The only way to improve overall bandwidth is to move to multiple SCSI connections, which can improve performance but comes with increased costs and more cable clutter.
Performance Conclusion
Both SAS and SATA I/II have their place in the Direct Attached Storage market. If your application needs high I/O throughput and can reside on low to medium capacities, then SAS is definitely the way to go. If you need high capacity more than you need high I/O then SATA I/II is the best choice. Of course with 300GB SAS drives (soon to be 600GB) you can still reach very high capacities, but at a cost that is significantly higher than with SATA. In the end you have to balance performance vs. cost and determine which is best for you.
Conclusion
Through our testing the Promise VTrak J300s has proven itself to be a reliable solution with good performance that is well suited for the SMB world. The ability to use high capacity SATA or high performance SAS in the same chassis gives users a new level of flexibility that wasn't an option before. Add to that the new performance levels that SAS can obtain vs. SCSI and DAS becomes a feasible solution again before moving to a full Fiber/SAN infrastructure. Of course when that time comes, it can be filled with high capacity SATA disks and still be useful for hosting a Virtual Tape Library, NAS backend, or long term data storage.
At the time of writing Shopping.com reported a price of $2,100 to $2,500 USD for the VTrak J300s, which is a decent price for an external SAS/SATA chassis. We had a hard time coming up with things to say about our experience with the Promise VTrak because it simply just worked, and in the end, isn't that what we're all looking for?
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JarredWalton - Monday, February 5, 2007 - link
"or seek times" = "where seek times"yyrkoon - Saturday, February 3, 2007 - link
many 'old timers' are going to claim SCSI is better than anything, because its been around a long time, and has a proven track record. What these 'old timers' don't realize, is that SAS, and SCSI drives, share the same ancestry, except that SAS, also shares a history with SATA. *shrug*mino - Sunday, February 4, 2007 - link
Yes they are those.However most posters here do NOT dispute the benefits and superiority os SAS over U320.
The point is that according the numbers published even SATA 7.2k is on par with SCSI320 10k !!!
Those numbers simply coudn't be much more away from the reality then they are.
Artificially more than halving the performance of a tested platform simply is not acceptable.
Also to make tables in the sense SATAI vs. SATAII vs. SCSI vs. SAS is on itself seriously misleading to the extent that best thing to do for AT (provided they were not paid for it!) would be to call in the article eithe indefinitelly or for rewrite.
Actually the reality is:
SATA I or SATA II driver do not exist, there are only SATA drives inn existence as of now.
performance-wise on single to 6-drives/system:
SATA(7.2k) < SATA(10k) < SCSI(10k) = SAS(10k) < SCSI(15k) = SAS(15k)
on 8+drives system:
SATA(7.2k) < SATA(10k) < SCSI(10k) < SAS(10k) < SCSI(15k) < SAS(15k)
For an 12-drive test the results should be:
SATA(7k) << SCSI(10k) << SAS(15k) which is obvious even before any testing.
However much more beneficial test would be:
SATA(10k-Raptor) vs. SCSI(10k) vs. SAS (10k) with SCSI and SAS driver ideally from the same line.
mino - Sunday, February 4, 2007 - link
"SATA I or SATA II driver" --> "SATA I or SATA II drives"mino - Saturday, February 3, 2007 - link
Yes, one sometimes has to make compromises.But benchmarking SCSI setup with 12drives on a SINGLE cable is plain stupid and tabloid-like aproach.
This organization seriously criples perfromance and is NEVER used unless there is some very serious reason for it.
mino - Saturday, February 3, 2007 - link
If you did have no SCSI option than the one you used, you should not have published those "SCSI" numbers at all. Those numbers as they are have nothing to do with SCSI being poor, they are simply showcasing that 3yrs 10k drive are slower than new 15k drives. Nothing new here.Googer - Friday, February 2, 2007 - link
That chart is missing the old 5.25 inch drives. The most famous of those was probably the Quantum Bigfoot. Quantum was bought out by Maxtor.http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/it/2007/promis...">http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/it/.../promise...
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Justin Case - Friday, February 2, 2007 - link
Maybe the article author should read this...http://www.sata-io.org/namingguidelines.asp">http://www.sata-io.org/namingguidelines.asp
monsoon - Friday, February 2, 2007 - link
Hello,I'm used to change computers frequently, I have lots of data to store.
Currently I've got 4 external 300Gb drives and 4 external 400Gb drive; all of them connected through firewire.
I've been looking eagerly for solutions similar to the NORCO DS-1220; but I need to connect the storage unit to laptops as well, so it has to control RAID5 all by itself.
I can't find alternatives in the market, and while the UNRAID solution looks interesting, it's not safe, neither easy to implement.
Looking forward to external storage devices reviews for home users with big archives.
Units need to stand the test of time and be there while PCs come and go.
Ideally, I must be able to replace drives with higher capacity when they get cheaper, without having to replace all of them at the same time.
It better be silent; well, at least not loud...
Any idea ?
Thanks
mino - Saturday, February 3, 2007 - link
Look for some reliable NAS solution (+Gbit swith - now dirt cheap).